“It turned out to be Putin’s foot soldier.” Alexey Dyumin's first interview after his appointment. — Straight from the White House? — That is, he was circling around the Tula region all the time
Recently appointed acting governor of the Tula region, Alexey Dyumin, who is called a possible successor to Vladimir Putin, gave an interview to the Kommersant newspaper, in which he spoke about his acquaintance with Putin and his relationship with him, as well as his involvement in Viktor Yanukovych’s escape from Ukraine.
According to media reports, Alexey Dyumin was Putin’s personal adjutant, helped annex Crimea to Russia and played hockey with the Rotenbergs. His younger brother is a contractor for the construction of the Zaryadye park near the Kremlin and the head of the Olimpiysky sports complex. The day before, The New Times magazine published an investigation of his family. Now Dyumin gave his first interview after the media-excited appointment.
About the appointment
In an interview with Andrey Kolesnikov, the new acting Governor of the Tula region says that he learned about his appointment from Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev:
“I was called. Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev called me. He looked at me very carefully... And Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev says that there is such an opinion that the president will now meet with you and offer you a new job. This is his decision, it has not yet been finalized, but you must understand, you must be internally prepared, that there is an opinion to appoint you as acting governor of the Tula region. After that I went to the president in Ogaryovo...”
When he came to the president, the ex-governor of the region, Vladimir Gruzdev, was already there. Putin said that a decision had been made on the appointment - “we talked in detail, then there was a meeting in front of cameras.”
About hockey
Dyumin played in the Night Hockey League, established by President Putin, together with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Moscow Region Governor Andrei Vorobyov, former minister Internal Affairs Rashid Nurgaliev, other former and current officials in law enforcement agencies and authorities, as well as entrepreneurs Igor and Arkady Rotenberg and Gennady Timchenko.
He played as a goalkeeper, often playing in a team against Vladimir Putin. In an interview, he stated that he has been playing hockey since childhood.
“In Voronezh, I started playing hockey in the fourth grade. I saw the ice box open. Grown-up kids played there. I came to sign up, and when the coach asked me if I could skate, I said: “No.” I say: “Can I at least be a goalie...” I had a common mistake: that goalies don’t have to skate... And just in that age group there were no goalies, because no one wanted to be goalies... to have pucks thrown at them... And even more so, the ammunition that was at that time was completely different from what it is now, there were big bruises, bruises, fractures... And stars before my eyes, and light bulbs lit up, and flies flew... But that’s not the main thing. Goalkeeping is a whole philosophy, because if you don’t psychologically tune in to the game, then you can lose before the game starts... After the tenth grade, I was taken to a stronger team and offered a career as a goalkeeper... There was such a team “Buran”, Voronezh,” - he says.
My father dissuaded me from becoming a professional hockey player. Then Dyumin followed the military career ladder.
About serving under Putin
“When I got to the military unit, the first thing I discovered was that the tap was leaking hot water and they can't close it. Then my senior mentor came, took out a bottle of alcohol, diluted it with hot water, and a chemical reaction began. They took one egg, cut it into four using fishing line... “Well, drink up!” I drank. And I hear: “Well, it’s clear that you will serve!” And then, when this began to continue systematically, my hair stood on end... And when a personnel officer I knew suggested that I move to the main security department, to the presidential communications department, I immediately agreed. They told me: “You will be responsible for ensuring communications for top officials on their trips throughout the country and abroad...” I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and there was a couple of times the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin...” says Dyumin.
How did Dyumin get into the presidential security service?
“I approached one department head and asked. I say: “Take me, I want to come to you!” And he ended up in the personal security department,” he says.
But there was “aerobatics” when in 1999, upon returning from a business trip from the regions, where he was supporting the visit of then Prime Minister Stepashin, he received a call in the evening and was told that tomorrow he would go out as personal security to Vladimir Putin.
“And I found myself in a position like... let’s say, Putin’s foot soldier...,” says Dyumin. - I came out on the first day when he assumed the duties of chairman of the government. It was August 9, 1999."
He spoke about his personal acquaintance with Putin.
Were you immediately introduced to Vladimir Putin?
Zolotov Viktor Vasilyevich (then the head of the presidential security service - note Medialeaks) - a man who did a lot in my life, taught me wisdom, and I got a lot from him, and there were a couple of moments when he almost kicked me out... I sometimes he chopped with a saber... And so he talked to us and said that it would not be easy, that it would be hard... And he said something else. I immediately realized that this was a very strong, spirited commander, whom I could follow to the end. And then there was a presentation to Vladimir Vladimirovich. He said, "Are you ready?" We told him: “Yes, we are ready, we will work.” And off we go!..
Where did it go?
They say about me that I was an adjutant, but I have never been an adjutant. Naturally, I walked along a certain staircase and was never an adjutant on it. An adjutant is such a caste of chosen people... I was part of a group of officers who ensured security in Russia and abroad, everywhere... Well, I was like all of us... We were selected, we did what we had to do, we carried out tasks that were set before us. Well, the last thing I achieved in this direction was that I was deputy head of the security department and the chairman of the government, and the president, and then again the chairman of the government...
There is no such thing!
At sea you took some samples from whales... you shot at them...
A! Well, there was a lot of excitement there, I was just backing him up... Yes, of course. It was necessary to insure...
But this is still a special closeness, a special relationship...
This is not a special relationship. These are security measures. We could all end up in the water... And so that Vladimir Vladimirovich would not end up in the water, in the raging ocean in the first place... And I didn’t want to end up, because if something happened, we would all have to...
Let us remind you that after presidential elections in 2008, which Dmitry Medvedev won, the government was headed by Vladimir Putin, and Dyumin became, as they say in the press, his personal adjutant. The Presidential Security Service at this time actually protected the Prime Minister.
On participation in the annexation of Crimea
Since 2014, he became deputy chief of the GRU and at the same time commander of the Russian Special Operations Forces.
Documentary film “Crimea. The Way to the Homeland”, shown on VGTRK channels, says that the Special Operations Forces actually provided forceful support for the annexation of Crimea to Russia in 2014, and Alexey Dyumin personally developed and carried out the evacuation operation to Russia former president Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych.
When the topic of Crimea came up in the interview, Dyumin said that “he had nothing special to say.”
Is there really nothing?
Then finally tell me: did you save Yanukovych?
I don’t even understand where this all comes from. Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the start of the famous events in Ukraine, I never saw this gentleman at all. And what you’re asking me about, I can’t even comment on, because it’s not true at all. In general, I won’t tell anything about the activities of the unit in which I served. Because I can not.
And he received the Hero of Russia, so not only for Crimea? Or not for Crimea at all?
No comments. For performing special tasks as part of the unit. Not a special task, but special tasks, Andrey. And there I left a piece of my heart. Precisely with those guys who are still serving there. Then, by decision of the Deputy Minister of Defense, I was appointed from this position to Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, Chief of the General Staff...
About Putin's successor
At the very end of the interview, the journalist asks a question that clearly hints at talk that Dyumin is a possible successor to Vladimir Putin as president. Let us remind you that presidential elections will be held in 2018.
Program (socio-economic development of the Tula region - note by Medialeaks) for five years? Are you sure that you will stay in this position for five years? You know what kind of talk there was.
Now I will work if the residents and voters of the Tula region give me such an opportunity. If they believe me, I intend to implement this program for five years.
You're avoiding answering...
Yes, no matter what I say about this, it will all be logs for a fire that actually does not exist...
Will you break through?
But there are no options.
Kommersant special correspondent ANDREY KOLESNIKOV asked and. O. Governor of the Tula region ALEXEY DYUMIN about how he came to hockey, how he saved a saboteur bear from inevitable death, whether he saved Viktor Yanukovych in Crimea, and also how he survived his appointment as deputy minister of defense, and then as head of the Tula region.
We met with... O. Governor of the Tula region Alexey Dyumin in Moscow, on his legal weekend. On Sunday evening he was going to Tula for good. This is a person to whom the attention of a huge number of political scientists, experts, military people and civilians is now riveted. A very unusual biography. It threw me very hard different sides, but rather, it was thrown up. Very much closed person. So I really wanted to open it, especially since I understood that I had a chance. And - here he is, the whole Alexey Dyumin.
- Alexey, let's start with...
“But I suggest not pretending that this is the first time we’ve seen each other and that we’re on first name terms.” Because we have known each other well for 15 years, or even more.
- Certainly. What has happened to you over the past few days is hard to imagine. You can, as they say, only survive. And it seems that interest in you as governor will no longer dry up. You were in Putin's personal guard, you were in the special forces, you were the deputy minister of defense, you were the governor of the Tula region... Or rather, acting. O. ... And this, apparently, is not the limit. But almost nothing is known about you. So come on, tell me, as they say, from the beginning... Where you were born and, strictly speaking, how...
— Andrey, well, before I start, I would like to say that it’s absolutely correct: it was a surprise. But the fact that it fell or collapsed is not entirely true. I was appointed by the Supreme Commander and I answered yes.
- Appointed. That's when it collapsed...
- Yes, unexpectedly. But it didn't collapse.
- Well, how come it didn’t collapse? How did you find out about this? Well, I woke up in the morning. Some people say that they woke up famous. But this is not the case; in principle, without details, of course, they already knew about you. You're a goalie in the Night Hockey League... So what did you learn about yourself this morning? How it was?
- I was called. Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev called me. He looked at me very carefully... And Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev says that there is such an opinion, the president will now meet with you and offer you a new job. This is his decision, it has not yet been made finally, but you must understand, you must be internally prepared, that there is an opinion to appoint you as acting governor of the Tula region. After that I went to the president in Ogarevo...
— Straight from the White House?
- No, not from Bely, from Gorki. Gruzdev Vladimir Sergeevich (ex-governor of the Tula region) was already there.— A.K.). We went to the president, and he indicated. He said that a decision had been made to appoint me as acting. We talked in detail, then there was a meeting under cameras.
- This is a turning point in life. Have you even started to doubt it? Or as a military man...
— There were reflections later. Well, I... you said correctly that my whole life is connected with the army, and my first education was a military school, it was service to the fatherland, the armed forces, special services, then the armed forces again. I was given tasks, I completed them.
- Oh, I know that. This is how we wrote a book at one time, with Natalya Gevorkyan and Natalya Timakova, and this is exactly how we began communicating with Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
— The book was called “In the First Person.”
- That's for sure. And he said: “What? Well, he was born, studied, got married, which means he worked in the KGB, then they offered to work there and there, that’s all, but in principle there’s nothing more to tell.” This is exactly where the conversation began. But then details emerged that were enough for the entire book. Still, let's go into more detail. Where he was born?
- Yes I remember. I witnessed your work on long evenings, your group of journalists who locked themselves in for tea, drank more than one cup of tea with crackers and cookies, and these long conversations were winter evenings both in Volynsky, and on trips to St. Petersburg or somewhere else... Just, please, there is no need to compare us.
- And yet: where were you born?
— My father is a military medic, born in the Kursk village. I lived in Kursk for only a few months and then in military garrisons.
- And mom?
— My mother is also from Kursk. They got married there. My mother was a teacher all my life. She taught in primary school... And when we lived in Bobrov, she was even a teacher in a juvenile colony. And she was caught in a riot even there... She is now a pensioner, and her father finished serving in the armed forces a year ago. And after Kursk I served in Kaluga, then in Voronezh... I finished school there.
— That is, he was circling around the Tula region all the time...
- Yes, that’s how it turns out... In Voronezh, my father worked in a military hospital, and across the road there was a military radio-electronic school. And I had a choice. I was playing hockey then...
- Oh, so it’s not all by chance: Night Hockey League... I didn’t just succumb to someone else’s hobby...
— In Voronezh, I started playing hockey in the fourth grade. I saw the ice box open. Grown-up kids played there. I came to sign up, and when the coach asked me if I could skate, I said, “No.” I say: “Can I at least be a goalkeeper...” I had a common mistake: that goalies don’t have to skate... And just in that age group there were no goalies, because no one wanted to be goalies... so that they would throw pucks at them... And even more so, the ammunition that was at that time was completely different from what it is now, there were big bruises, contusions, fractures... And stars before the eyes, and light bulbs lit up, and flies flew ... But this is not the main thing. Goalkeeping is a whole philosophy, because if you don’t psychologically tune in to the game, then you can lose before the game even starts... After the tenth grade, I was taken to a stronger team and offered a career as a goalkeeper... There was such a team as “Buran”, Voronezh.
- And who dissuaded you?
“My father told me: “It is unknown whether you will turn out to be an athlete, but the fact that you will be a normal military man, dressed and shod, and in action, that’s for sure.” And I entered the military school.
-Where did you live?
— The apartments were rented. I even remember a period of time when in Kaluga we lived in the basement of a military hospital. A large storage facility for medicines, medical equipment... And like in the movie "Officers", the corner was fenced off with a tarpaulin, where there were beds, a field kitchen, and we lived there...
— You studied at a military school when this profession was not very popular. Mid 90's...
— I studied and completed it successfully. By that time my father had been transferred to Moscow, and I was assigned to the Moscow Military District. It was, say, a small military unit that was engaged in countering enemy technical reconnaissance means.
- It’s already interesting.
- Not really. When I got to the military unit, the first thing I discovered was that hot water was flowing from the tap and they couldn’t turn it off. Then my senior mentor came, took out a bottle of alcohol, diluted it with hot water, and a chemical reaction began. They took one egg and cut it into four using fishing line... “Well, drink up!” I drank. And I hear: “Well, it’s clear that you will serve!” And then, when this began to continue systematically, my hair stood on end... And when a personnel officer I knew suggested that I move to the main security department, to the presidential communications department, I immediately agreed. They told me: “You will be responsible for ensuring communications for top officials on their trips throughout the country and abroad...” I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and there was a couple of times the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin...
- Hard work?
- Very! Volumetric large boxes of closed and open communications, which the officers themselves unloaded and loaded. On and off the plane, on the train, on the ship... 1996, such a very intense election campaign, when we didn’t even have time to run home, we were on business trips for months, changing point... one city to another city ... With these boxes, with boxes and with large satellite dishes...
— It was probably unrealistic for you to talk to Boris Nikolaevich at least once then?
- What you! The presidential security service was gods for us!.. I approached one of the heads of the unit and asked. I say: “Take me, I want to come to you!” And he ended up in the personal security department.
— And it was possible to get into this service so easily? Walk up to a person and say: “Take me, I’ll be useful to you”?
- This is a normal story. I think that was often the case... They naturally looked at who I was...
- And you are a career military man... And your father too... And another life began, apparently... And you learned other things on the go...
- Well, of course, the emphasis was on psychological preparation, on the ability to master hand-to-hand combat techniques, the ability to wield weapons in both individual and group combat, pistols, various machine guns... Nothing unusual: shooting on the move, on the run, from a car, in as part of the group...
- From the train... plane...
— From an airplane, no, but from a helicopter, maybe... And in principle, I was pleased that I ended up in this unit and devoted quite a lot of time to this particular service. And of course, the highest aerobatics was when in 1999 I returned from a business trip from the region of Russia, where we ensured the visit of Stepashin, the chairman of the government, and they called me in the evening and said that tomorrow I would go out as personal security to Vladimir Vladimirovich. And I found myself in such a post... let's say, Putin's foot soldier...
— Vladimir Putin has not yet been chairman of the government?
“I came out on the first day when he assumed the duties of chairman of the government. It was August 9, 1999.
“I probably didn’t understand how long you’d stay here.”
- I don’t want to talk now, for example, about one boss who told me that the next chairman of the government has come, that this is a passing option, that no one knows him, no one has heard... But your task is to tell us not to It’s a shame for everyone: we need to work it out. He came for two or three months, then there will be another chairman of the government, but he needs to work it out...
— Were you immediately introduced to Vladimir Putin?
— Zolotov Viktor Vasilyevich is a man who did a lot in my life, taught me wisdom, and I got a lot from him, and there were a couple of moments when he almost kicked me out... I sometimes chopped with a saber... And so he talked to us and said that it would not be easy, that it would be hard... And he said something else. I immediately realized that this was a very strong, spirited commander, whom I could follow to the end. And then there was a presentation to Vladimir Vladimirovich. He said, "Are you ready?" We told him: “Yes, we are ready, we will work.” And off we go!..
- Where did you go?
“They say about me that I was an adjutant, but I have never been an adjutant.” Naturally, I walked along a certain staircase and was never an adjutant on it. An adjutant is such a caste of selected people... I was part of a group of officers who ensured security in Russia and abroad, everywhere... Well, I was like all of us... We were selected, we did what we had to do, we completed the tasks that were assigned to us. Well, the last thing I achieved in this direction was that I was deputy head of the security department and the chairman of the government, and the president, and then again the chairman of the government...
- No such thing!
— In the sea, you took some samples from whales... you shot at them...
- A! Well, there was a lot of excitement there, I was just backing him up... Yes, of course. It was necessary to insure...
- But this is still a special closeness, a special relationship...
- This is not a special relationship. These are security measures. We could all end up in the water... And so that Vladimir Vladimirovich would not end up in the water, in the raging ocean in the first place... And I didn’t want to end up, because if something happened, we would all have to...
But that was not all the work consisted of. One might get the impression that everything is very cool with these guys, that they come with the president, stand around him, stand there and then leave. In fact they accept full participation in preparations for trips and visits, participate in meetings, including with foreigners, and ensure the safety of guests. And for this, what do you need to know? If the event is at an enterprise, you need to know what it does, what they produce there, what the situation is... That is, this work is not related for the most part with the fact that you have a gun in a holster or somewhere else... And during the preparations for foreign trips, protocol, media, and the department for foreign policy and the senior security group... That is, he was also involved in this...
— When did Vladimir Putin pay attention to you? After all, he did?
— I was a member of the team headed by Viktor Vasilievich Zolotov. And there was no special treatment towards me. This was the attitude towards the team that Zolotov made. We worked quite effectively for quite a long time, and I want to say that we didn’t have any mistakes or any things that we could regret or be ashamed of, let’s say.
— But were there any borderline moments?
— We have had enough of such things and moments that were associated with threats to the security of the head of state... Maybe in a certain number of years it will be possible to talk about some of these things, to remember something...
- I catch the word.
“They’re still under threat.” Well, as for some cases... For example, there was a visit to the village of Znamensky, after liberation from Chechen militants. And the meeting with the elders, it was also a difficult meeting, the village was liberated, but certain things remained that were associated with threats... And after the meeting with the elders, we went to the helicopter, and this is the main helicopter on which we arrived. I tried to tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that this helicopter was ours, he did not listen to me, and went across the field to a distant helicopter, not his own, and it turned out that he ended up in the escort helicopter. This helicopter took off safely, we sat down in the main one, the engine began to gain speed, the helicopter took off two meters from the ground, some kind of flame broke out under the skin, under the engine, smoke began to emerge, and the helicopter landed very hard...
- That is, he fell.
— The pilot came out all pale, sweaty, and said: “Guys, we were born in a shirt.” And then I wondered what it was.
- And who was born wearing a shirt?
— Naturally, first of all, Vladimir Vladimirovich, who flew away safely in the second helicopter.
And one more such, for example, story. It was a very distant object, in the mountains, and at night I was on duty in the house, the president was already resting, and then the station told me: “A bear is at your entrance.” At first I thought that someone was joking there, I walked up to the door and saw: standing in front of me was a bear, quite... very large in size. And the doors around the perimeter were all glass. Naturally, I’m armed, the president is upstairs... So, the bear and I looked into each other’s eyes, he stepped back a little, I opened the door and unloaded the entire clip of the pistol at his feet. I felt sorry for the bear, but I understood that he could...
- Well, not the whole clip... I probably left a couple of cartridges... One for myself...
— I had spare cartridges and the machine gun was loaded. But the bear turned out to be very intelligent. He realized that we had saved his life, turned around and leisurely left. In the morning, then, I reported to the president, he said that he was good for not shooting at the bear.
- That is, I didn’t even wake up.
- It seems not. Well, this story is just for relaxation, otherwise you and I are sitting here so serious...
- If we return to routine, then after a while I, for example, lost sight of you.
“You lost track of me because I went to another plane.” The leader called me and gave me instructions to ensure the safety and vital functions of the newly appointed chairman of the government, Viktor Alekseevich Zubkov. A very smart and respected person, we still maintain relations with him. And I think that he is one of the very worthy and decent...
— While you were working in the White House, did you enter the Civil Service Academy? I started reading books...
“I don’t agree with you, because everyone in our service reads books.” And people who read books, and not just watch TV, will always be important for the country.
— And it turns out that Vladimir Putin has returned to you, right? When I ended up in the White House.
— It was not Vladimir Vladimirovich who returned to me, but I, let’s say, did not leave him. I completed the task that was assigned. And its implementation could take a long time. But it turned out that this period turned out to be nine months.
— I think that you didn’t expect that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin would become chairman of the government.
— For the first three months, the whole country, in my opinion, expected that Viktor Alekseevich Zubkov would be president. It was such activity... Again, regions, foreign business trips... It was a very interesting time...
— And as a result, it turned out that Vladimir Putin came to The White house ready for everything.
— It turned out that in the White House I prepared the basis for a leader... When Putin came as prime minister, in fact, a crisis began, these frantic trips around the country began... And it was a terrible time. I remember well... Either some man-made accidents, or some catastrophes... I remember that we slept little...
“Even us journalists were affected by these endless night meetings in the White House. Sometimes they left in the morning.
— Vladimir Vladimirovich often stayed...
—What was your job at that time? The status, as I understand it, has already changed.
- You must be in complete control of the overall situation. Every morning begins with a report to the president on operational reports. Not only do special services report to him, but you must also have information on the regions, on emergency situations... Sometimes you had to convey an order to the minister, assign a task to the head of the region... And you had to convey it in such a way as not to offend, for example, the federal minister and bring to him the idea or the essence of the issue... But, of course, I had to deal with more direct responsibilities. There was once such a moment, very interesting, which characterizes him. It was the end of the term of the Prime Minister, a trip, and there was a public appearance, and it seemed to me that one of the, let’s say, citizens behaved incorrectly towards Vladimir Vladimirovich, took him by the sleeve, began to pull him back, and I hit him by hand. Well, I just indicated... It was during the day. In the evening, Vladimir Vladimirovich called me to his place, at about ten o’clock, and said: “If I see this again, you will never work with me again.” He says: “I saw this situation, you didn’t have to do this. This is a simple person. We’ll leave, you’re all dressed up, together with the president... and he will have a bad feeling for the rest of his life not towards you, but towards to me..."
— In general, you couldn’t even imagine that you would return to the Ministry of Defense?
- Of course, I was in the special service, but I never thought that I would return to the Ministry of Defense. I was called before the New Year... And they said that I needed to continue serving in the Ministry of Defense. I said, “I have the option to refuse”? They tell me: “No, there is no opportunity to refuse.”
- What, it really didn’t happen?
- No, it was still my decision. This is an independent path. I was, of course, comfortable. I knew the job. I understood everything how to do it... I knew the manager’s requirements, his approaches... I understood the environment, I understood... well, I was in a fairly comfortable environment. And I was interested in these trips, communication, new people, responsibility... I was already a leader at a certain level, where I could make decisions independently...
But still I decided to leave, start new life. And I immediately found myself, as they say, in a mess of preparations and support for the Olympics. We covered the mountain cluster with our unit. These were the highest points... Where we were, it was very beautiful, very deserted and not very simple.
- What kind of unit is this? What is it called?
- This is an elite... a fairly serious unit, one might say, this is an officer unit... And the area of operation of special operations forces is the whole world. These are highly educated, very prepared, professional guys who know one thing or two foreign languages, who have very specific training, who can act either independently or as part of groups. And a very closed unit. I am proud that I headed this unit, where there are real officers, where there is a sense of community, honor, dignity and fulfillment of tasks at any cost, up to... I don’t know how to say.
— In Crimea after the Olympics, as I understand, everything was not very simple.
— There’s nothing special to say about Crimea.
- Nothing really?
- Nothing.
- Then finally tell me: did you save Yanukovych?
“I don’t even understand where all this comes from.” Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the start of the famous events in Ukraine, I never saw this gentleman at all. And what you’re asking me about, I can’t even comment on, because it’s not true at all. In general, I won’t tell anything about the activities of the unit in which I served. Because I can not.
— And you said that the scope of activity of this unit is the whole world. Apparently, you've been on long-distance business trips? Far from the borders of the homeland, thousands of kilometers from it, or something...
- I was, and more than once, but I won’t say anything more.
— And you received the Hero of Russia, so not only for Crimea? Or not for Crimea at all?
- No comments. For performing special tasks as part of the unit. Not a special task, but special tasks, Andrey. And there I left a piece of my heart. Precisely with those guys who are still serving there. Then, by decision of the Deputy Minister of Defense, I was appointed from this position to Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, Chief of the General Staff...
- Well, you’ve already gone too far!.. It’s time to ask what kind of relationship you have with Sergei Shoigu.
— Relations... I have known Sergei Kuzhugetovich for a very long time, because he also headed the Ministry of Emergency Situations, naturally, the president always took a direct part in these events, we communicated very closely with the Minister of Emergency Situations regarding official activities, and, naturally , The Ministry of Emergency Situations assisted us in allocating transport... Providing for our events... It was one of the most effective ministries... both in terms of equipment and speed of decision-making... I want to say right away that I came to Shoigu I treated and still treat you with great respect. He real man, I'm glad that fate brought him together.
— How did you find out that you had been appointed Deputy Minister of Defense?
“The minister just called me.” Last December. The Minister of Defense called me and said that it was his decision and that he had agreed on his decision with the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. And that he offers me to take the post of Deputy Minister of Defense.
— Apparently there weren’t any special thoughts again, right?
— There weren’t any special thoughts, but...
- Could you refuse this time?
- Well, I tried not to refuse, I tried to discuss. How was this decision made, etc. To which I was told in such a harsh form that the decision had been made and the verdict could not be appealed. But we must give credit to Sergei Kuzhugetovich. He saw my condition, saw my eyes and asked that they bring me 50 grams of cognac from the reception... Well, not 50, but even 100. This despite the fact that there is prohibition in the ministry...
— The minister said what your duties will be?
“He immediately outlined my functionality to me. And for me this also came as a second surprise. This is the department of construction, provision of housing for military personnel, this is military medicine, this is the department of property relations... And I haven’t left... I’m psychologically... I haven’t yet calmed down in this position, understanding what I’ll have to deal with... so much construction projects alone... and considering how the minister understands all this...
— In general, the entire economy of the Ministry of Defense... After this, you really wouldn’t be entrusted with the region. The responsibility is a hundred times less... Besides, maybe thank God that this heavy burden fell off my shoulders within a month...
- On the one hand, yes!.. And on the other...
—Have you yourself analyzed what actually happened? It is not clear why there is such a jump - either sideways, or up, or down.
- Analyzed. Honestly?
- Yes.
— I’m still analyzing it.
- That's fair.
“Only one person knows about this.” I understand: here another situation arose with the governor of the Tula region... And in fact, most likely, an amazing coincidence of circumstances... But Gruzdev did a lot for the region, and they carry him in their arms there. He is a well-deserved person there. From workers, from grandmothers to district heads, he is respected; he is a serious manager.
- In general, you didn’t say “no” again.
“I couldn’t say, because I... When I was offered this position, I was a military man, and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief assigned this task to me. And it never happened that when he set tasks for me, I said “no”. Maybe I had some desire inside me to say something, but I said “yes.” After all, life has changed dramatically more than once. I will work to make it work.
- How long have you been married?
— About 18 years old, it seems, we need to clarify.
- At your wife's?
- Yes. The child goes to fifth grade in Moscow. Son.
- And where will he go to school now?
“For the past year he has been preparing to enter a specialized school with a mathematical focus. Year. These are tutors, this is participation in mathematical olympiads, this is a chess club... it was parallel with the football section... so now he didn’t just enter this school. And I wouldn’t want to ruin the child’s fate because of my own fate. Naturally, he will stay and continue his studies in Moscow.
— We went to VDNKh with a group of comrades, she was with a group of friends... It was some kind of holiday, I don’t remember now, summer... Cute girls went...
— Airborne Forces Day?..
- No!.. I thought this would be an episodic situation, but it turned out that it was not an episodic situation at all.
— So what can Tula residents expect from you in the near future? You already said there won’t be any quick personnel changes in Tula? Or will there be no fast ones?
— There will be no revolutionary movements, no Moscow landings, that’s for sure. And I think that the team that is working there now is very good.
— Or maybe it would be good to refresh the team? Every team needs this.
— In order to refresh and make such decisions, you must understand the situation, namely, what is happening on the ground. And you need to understand it not from words or at first glance, you need to figure it out, you need to work hard and understand, in general, what is happening. And after that, only make some decisions if they are needed.
— And when to work, when, if elections are already around the corner? September 18? It's time to prepare for the elections...
- I have already started working.
- Yes, that’s understandable...
— Elections are elections, but I will naturally try to pay attention to my duties first of all. And for me, of course, the state of mind of the population is very important... and the security of those people for whom I will be responsible. And this is a very difficult task. I know firsthand, I know Tula people, that they are such a very spiritual people, and with their own core, with their own character, and earning trust, so that they believe in you, is very difficult...
- That is, I understood that, of course, you are going to the elections. In a crisis, it will be even more difficult to earn trust. But we can assume that you have a federal resource, which many governors do not have. Worked...
- Well, maybe this is said loudly about the federal resource, but based on my work and based on the experience I have acquired... well, there is nothing to hide here, some ministers and leaders with whom I came into contact are in their posts... But That's a very difficult question. I won't abuse it.
— You said that you have known Vladimir Gruzdev for a long time.
- Yes. And we have many mutual friends with him. There was even a period of time, and it still remains, where we, let’s say, played sports under the same roof... I don’t want to say that we are family friends, but we are on fairly friendly, warm terms.
- But did he tell you in general how to settle in a new place, what shops to go to, cafes?..
- Well, of course! He and I sat down on the day I took office, after all the meetings and events, acquaintances with the government... At six o'clock in the evening we sat down and left the office around half past two in the morning. These were all topics, ending with everyday ones. You can, of course, take a suit and an emergency suitcase and just move 180 kilometers... But still, this is a change in living conditions, various things to which you are accustomed... And this, I think, will last for a long time.
— Do you know what you will do in the coming days?
- Now there will be constant trips to enterprises, cities, villages - in general, such a very rich program, quite serious. I think that we need to propose a program of socio-economic development for five years and develop it. And I already have certain proposals, but I will talk about them in Tula.
— A five-year program? Are you sure that you will stay in this position for five years? You know what kind of talk there was.
“I will work now if the residents and voters of the Tula region give me such an opportunity.” If they believe me, I intend to implement this program for five years.
- You're avoiding answering...
- Yes, no matter what I say about this, it will all be logs on a fire that actually doesn’t exist...
- Will you break through?
- There are no options.
Interview conducted by Andrey Kolesnikov
ALEXANDER DYUMIN: “A heart attack changed my perception of life...”
Author-performer Alexander Dyumin, whom journalists and fans call the most a prominent representative“Hard Chanson” turns 45 on October 9. On the eve of the anniversary, the musician gave exclusive interview Radio Chanson website.
Sasha, all fans of the genre know that you suffered a heart attack in winter, and therefore my first question is about your health. How are you feeling? Can you say that today all the problems are behind us?
Better, much better, but it’s still too early to talk about complete rehabilitation. Today I put on a sweater, sharply jerked my hand and immediately the needle entered my heart. It stabbed, it stabbed... What do you want, a massive heart attack, 70% of the heart was affected. So it’s too early to talk about a complete recovery. But I hope that with God's help my strength will return.
How did your heart attack affect your attitude towards life?
The heart attack changed my perception of life. When you find yourself in intensive care at the age of 44, you wonder whether you lived correctly. It’s no secret what kind of life I led. The attitude towards life, towards one’s own health, was, to be honest, indifferent. This was reflected in creativity. I was somewhat lazy, I wrote songs only when the mood came. Unlike, say, Zheka, a hard worker, a person who really works. I went to the studio only because of my mood. I woke up, the star smiled at me, and I went, but to force myself, this has never happened. After the heart attack, I realized that I had been returned from the other world. I look into the eyes of my daughter, I look into the eyes of my wife, mother, friends. These people sincerely worried about me and helped me. When this happened, help came from all over Russia. 40 people a day came to the hospital. Doctors, security, nurses did not know where to hide from visitors (laughs). For me, this served as a huge support and understanding that since God left me on this earth, not everything is sung, not everything is done. And my attitude towards myself, towards my own creativity has changed.
I know that doctors banned you from performing for at least six months. Are you following their instructions and when do you plan to return to the stage?
No, I can't comply. At the end of August, they called from my native Gorlovka, inviting me to speak at Miner’s Day. How could I refuse when, as a boy, every day I saw my father, black with coal dust, returning from the mine. He left all his health underground, left the mine as an invalid, and his mother accompanied him every day as if to the front. This is the hardest work. How many accidents happen in mines... I went and sang three songs. I saw my mother. True, after these three songs my heart was pounding incredibly, I stood backstage and thought what would happen to me at a solo concert, when I would have to sing for at least an hour and a half straight. But I already have my first performances planned for the end of October. Tyumen, Tobolsk, Chelyabinsk, Magnitogorsk... Well, God willing, I can handle it.
I see you haven’t been able to quit smoking yet...
This is my problem (sighs). I have significantly reduced the number of cigarettes, but I still can’t quit completely, although I will definitely do it, I have significant motivation for this.
The Internet won't stop buzzing, when will Dyumin release a new album?
If we take it quantitatively, then 12-15 new compositions have already been recorded, but, I repeat, after the heart attack I rethought a lot and look at some songs differently and am in no hurry to release them. But work is underway. Just the other day I was in the studio recording a new piece that Zheka and Misha Grubov wrote and dedicated to me. In my opinion, the song was a success.
You are a great friend with Zheka. But Zheka in last years is moving away from his image and is already singing like Evgeny Grigoriev from the big stages. You will never didn't want to go down this path?
I wanted and didn’t want to at the same time. I remember how at the very beginning of my journey, when the release of the “Convoy” album was just getting ready, we gathered in Yuri Sevostyanov’s studio and he, together with his companions, decided what the name of my project would be. Various options were proposed, for example, Alexander Rams. There was a long discussion. I sat, listened to their conversations, and then said: “What is all this for? The time is such that now there is no need to hide behind these songs, there is no need to run, and I’m unlikely to be sent to Susuman. Therefore, I don’t see any point in a pseudonym. I am me. Alexander Dyumin. And I don’t think it’s necessary to take a stage name instead of my own.” I'm generally a man of contradictions. When they tell me - do this, I always try to go against it and, frankly speaking, I would hardly be able to play by the rules of show business. This is not mine... But Zheka is my friend and I support him in any decision. He decided to change his image, try himself in a more lyrical genre. This is his right and I will always support him.
I can’t help but ask about your collaboration with rapper Zhigan...
We have known Romka for a long time. But the acquaintance was one-sided for the time being. It turned out that I performed in the colony where he was at that time. Of course, there were hundreds of people there, and I couldn’t get to know him personally, but he remembered my songs and not long ago we met, he suggested doing a joint project. Frankly, I doubted it for a long time. Still, rap and chanson are somewhat different things, but then I thought that it is in rap now that those sharp, social motives for which our genre was once famous are heard more often. Roma feels the word and does not touch upon topics in his work that I do not accept. On the contrary, he himself, having seen a lot, tries to teach his audience correct understanding many important things in life. In general, I agreed and now slowly, thoughtfully, work is underway on a duet composition, which is dedicated to friends.
Sasha, you have quite a lot of duet compositions with your friends-chansonnier Zheka, Igor German, Alexander Cherkasov, and why no collaborations with representatives of the fair sex?
There was a duet with Tanya Tishinskaya. And shortly before my illness, we planned to record a song together with my old friend, the wonderful artist Katya Golitsyna. She not only sings beautifully, but also writes very talentedly, which is very rare in the genre, and so we planned to perform a duet of a piece that Katya composed. But I think that soon we will bring our plans to life.
You once said that in your life there are several, let’s say, hobbies. These are sports cars, horse riding and backgammon collecting. What's left and what's gone?
Frankly, after a heart attack, driving a car at a speed of 200 km per hour is still out of the question. I love horses, but I can’t go horse riding as often as before. I even gave the stallion, which my fans gave to me several years ago, to the stables in Bitsevsky Park. But the collection of backgammon is only growing. Friends come, Zheka, Igor German, Sanya Cherkasov, we make some tea and play, sometimes for hours.
You used to collect a collection of your pirated publications. Preservedis this a hobby?
Yes, I continue to collect a collection of pirated discs, but recently they brought them again full selection MP3 with some kind of photograph... Where do they get them (laughs). But I don't mind. I visit the regions a lot and I know, truly know, how people live there and therefore I don’t mind at all if they have the opportunity to buy my pirated discs for some little money. Yes, I don’t earn anything, but this money will definitely not make me happier.
Your daughter is growing up. How old is she and what does she do?
Maria is quite an adult; on September 5 she turned 19 years old. She graduated from school with flying colors, was very active, and led all creative events. He draws well. Now she is in her second year of university, where she entered on her own, without any calls. I am pleased that she grew up unspoiled, understanding many things correctly at her young age.
What did you give your daughter for her birthday, if it’s not a secret?
Not a secret. Gave the consecrated Kiev-Pechersk Lavra an icon and some money so that she and her friends can go bowling or go to a cafe. My daughter is my joy. She and I get along well and understand each other.
Now that you have a little more free time, what do you spend it on?
I watch the news and am very worried about the situation in Syria. I think that our president is right. Is it humane for a neighbor to argue with his wife, and someone else intervenes in the conflict? The Arab world is a delicate thing and it is impossible to cut from the shoulder here. I read, of course. I recently finished re-reading “Katorga” by Valentin Pikul. When I need to rest my soul and turn off my head, I watch old films. Both ours and foreign ones. I really love historical paintings.
Have you ever wanted to act in a movie yourself?
It was like you were looking into water. Just the other day I received a call from Kyiv, offering me a role in the series “Brother for Brother”.
Did you agree? Who will you play?
Yes, I gave the go-ahead. This is a new creative experience and it interests me. I will play a crime boss, but I set the condition for the director that my hero should not be killed in the story. I am a superstitious person in this regard.
Since you will be on the screen, it is logical for your song to be played there as a soundtrack...
This was also discussed. Probably one of my new compositions will be featured in the film.
(c) Maxim Kravchinsky specially for Radio Chanson
On May 11, the First Tula TV channel aired an interview with the acting governor of the Tula region Alexei Dyumin, which he gave regional TV channels. Here is a transcript of this conversation:
E. Kiryanova: Today, for the first time on television, we are talking with the acting Governor of the Tula region, Alexei Dyumin. Alexey Gennadievich, hello!
A. Dyumin: Good afternoon!
A. Gubarev: May 11 is exactly 100 days since you took office. One might say, the first serious anniversary. Today we would like to talk to you about what these days were like, what has changed in your life, what has worked, and what else there is not enough time for yet.
E. Kiryanova: But first, a short look back - how it all began in February of this year.
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Announcer: On February 2, in Novo-Ogarevo, Vladimir Putin announces: Alexey Dyumin has been appointed acting Governor of the Tula Region. The President notes: the region where we have to work is complex.
A. Dyumin: The choice of my candidacy is a huge confidence of the President. I would like to assure you that I will do my best to justify him.
Announcer: Alexey Dyumin, after taking office, identifies the main pain points: the state of roads and housing in the region, wage arrears, healthcare. Each meeting with members of the government begins not with the usual report, but with an appeal from a specific person from a specific settlement. Then he addresses this complaint to the person responsible for this or that area. This work scheme is introduced two weeks after the appointment. Problems are dealt with locally in the districts.
A. Dyumin: It is clear that there are a lot of questions. There are no wizards here. We must all understand each other. But there are pressing issues that need immediate attention.
Announcer: Alexey Dyumin’s first trip to the Teplo-Ogarevsky district. People are asking for help with repairing the roof of a high school, rural roads, gasifying their homes, and installing new equipment in the gym. The Acting Governor is ready to negotiate with the management of the gas company himself and promises assistance in financing the repair of the local school and the central boiler house. And within a few weeks, exercise equipment is delivered to the gym. Instructions were given on all issues. Their implementation is monitored by relevant officials. Do not promise the impossible, do not speak empty words, only concrete actions - Alexey Dyumin repeats this to his team, explains the position of the legislative branch.
A. Dyumin: We need concrete, well-thought-out solutions, not empty chatter.
Announcer: What is also important is not quantity, but quality - Dyumin’s main wish at the meeting with Tula deputies regarding future joint work, because everyone has the same task - to improve the standard of living of the population of the Tula region.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, we just watched footage that has already become history. This is your presentation in the position of interim, your meeting with deputies of the Tula Regional Duma, your trips to the districts. Have you changed during this time?
A. Dyumin: It’s difficult for me to judge whether I have changed, but my life, of course, has changed. A lot of trips, a lot of meetings on duty. And I want to tell you that there are many tasks and many questions that need to be done immediately, that are urgent, that arise immediately. Someone’s got a leak, which we also need to pay attention to and, believe me, as the acting governor, sometimes we have to manually resolve this issue based on requests from residents. This is wage arrears at enterprises, which also need to be paid attention to; this is also a very serious indicator for the region as a whole. These are things that are associated with orders from large enterprises that have their own centuries-old traditions. Full of questions. The system should work. I think we'll get there. Today, it is much more effective to manage and resolve certain tasks manually under the direct control of the acting Governor. The team understands this, and I understand this too. We are fighting for this efficiency.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, during your hundred days you visited more than half of the districts of the region. Do you have a holistic impression of the region, how do you see its further development and what is its potential?
A. Dyumin: I want to say, you yourself understand perfectly well what region we live in. There's crazy potential here. First of all, human. Of course, industrial, economic, spiritual, if you want. This is a huge layer of culture that feeds us. It energizes us, gives us a certain impetus for good deeds, for the development of the Tula region. We will work in this direction. The points of growth should be the defense-industrial complex and education. All these priorities will be spelled out in detail and included in the Development Program of the Tula region for 2016–2021.
E. Kiryanova: On March 23, you spoke about the need to create a Development Program for the Tula Region until 2021. How did you come up with the idea of creating this Program? Why is it needed?
A. Dyumin: The idea arose because working without a goal and a plan is like sailing without a rudder and a sail. Or, as the military says: a good strategy is half the battle. Moreover, the country has a difficult economic situation. And it can be seen not only in Russia, but all over the world. A plan allows you not only to guess the future, but also to build it. AND the main objective, as I already said, this is improving the quality of life of our citizens. To put it simply, this is so that residents feel protected and have every opportunity for a decent life from birth to old age. So that the child can be enrolled in kindergarten, so that the school is nearby, and not in the neighboring area, so that one can go to college and enroll not only in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but also in his native land, and so that it is prestigious. And after graduation, you know for sure where you will go to work, what you will live on, how you will feed your family, how to raise children, take care of the elderly. The program should answer all these and other questions.
A. Gubarev: You have repeatedly emphasized that the final version of the Program will be implemented only taking into account the ideas and opinions of Tula residents. Over the past month and a half, there has been active discussion at expert group meetings, and I propose to see how it went.
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Announcer: How the Tula region will change in the coming years will be determined by the program of socio-economic development of the region. Work on it began on March 23. The result should be a specific plan with tasks, deadlines and responsible persons. The main goal of the document is to improve the quality of life of Tula residents.
A. Nikitin (General Director of the Agency for Strategic Initiatives): The development of such a strategy in itself will greatly push the Tula region forward. That is, Tula will be one of the locomotives. Other regions can learn something here.
M. Kudanov (resident of Tula): This entire historical center, from the All Saints Cemetery, then is limited to Lenin Avenue and Kaminsky Street, it is very beautiful. We have a great opportunity to make tourist and historical Tula right here.
Announcer: 15 expert groups are working on the Program. They include specialists from various fields and representatives of the public. At the first stage, during open discussions, the main tasks were formulated. In the second, expert groups worked at enterprises. We went to the fields to discuss the development of agriculture, for example, to one of the largest potato-growing farms in the region, “Maxim Gorky” in the Chernsky district. All agricultural producers have the same problems - improving the quality of products and their sales. Farmers agree: many issues cannot be resolved alone; we need to unite.
F. Romanovsky (director of Lazarevskoe Farming Enterprise LLC): Cooperation is needed to help in collecting products, to help bring them into marketable condition. Nothing happens by itself.
Speaker: More than 30 meetings, dozens of proposals - this is the intermediate result of the work of expert groups on the program for the socio-economic development of the region.
I. Davletshina (founder of the Museum of Entertaining Sciences “Experimentoria”): When the authorities come out to people and openly talk to them, asking: let’s do something, that’s very cool.
K. Danilov (head of the representative office of the Rostec Group of Companies in Tula): The most important thing is that all these proposals that were voiced today, I hope, will be implemented, were not formalized, were specific, productive, and most importantly final goals.
Announcer: Most interesting ideas discussed at a meeting of the expert council. Not only the leaders of specialized groups are at the table, but also high-ranking residents, those who sent their proposals. More than three hundred of them have already been received on the portal 71.tularegion.ru. Work on the Regional Social and Economic Development Program continues.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, what are the next steps in developing the Development Program?
A. Dyumin: On April 28, we held the first meeting of the expert council, which is now working on this strategic document. Based on its results, I gave instructions to hold a discussion of the Program in all municipalities of the region, so that each district and each municipality They saw themselves and their future in it. The Program must include proposals from residents of each city and district. By the end of May, prepare a draft Program and a specific action plan for it with clear tasks, deadlines, and those responsible for their implementation. Conduct a specific analysis and assessment of our experts’ proposals from the point of view of financial and economic feasibility. Also prepare a draft investment strategy for the region. In short, to understand how much money is needed to implement the proposals, what they will be used for, and where we will attract them from. We collect these suggestions from area residents. I plan to meet with the authors of the best ideas in person. In June we will present the draft Program to the general public. So far everything is going according to plan. I hope so.
E. Kiryanova: You presented the Program on March 23, then 50 days have passed since you took office. May 11 is exactly one hundred days since you are the acting Governor of the Tula region. What decisions made during this time do you consider the most important?
A. Dyumin: Today I can talk not only about decisions, but also about important events that have occurred over these three months. One of the most significant - on May 6, we, together with the Minister of Defense Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, laid the first stone in the foundation of the Tula Suvorov Military School. Construction will take place in several stages. The Ministry of Defense plans to complete the first stage by the beginning of school year. An educational building, a canteen, a medical building, two dormitories for 160 cadets, and a sports and recreation complex will be built. Already in will take place in September first set of cadets. It is important that the education that children receive in such educational institutions an order of magnitude higher in level than in others. I believe that the revival of the Suvorov School is a historical event for Tula.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, it’s May now. The Suvorov Military School will accept its first students on September 1. How realistic is it to build such a complex in 4 months?
A. Dyumin: You know, taking into account the most powerful department, the Russian Ministry of Defense, and knowing who now heads this department, I want to say that there are no impossible tasks. In Crimea, the Sevastopol School, of the same order, only the infrastructure was a little larger, was built in 150 days! Can you imagine?! The communication was given to build a school in 150 days, and it was built in 150 days. And their cadets already entered classrooms a year ago and the educational process began.
A. Dyumin: Absolutely! I think so and hope so.
A. Gubarev: Will training personnel from all over Russia be gathered at the Suvorov Military School?
A. Dyumin: Yes, this program is all-Russian. Naturally, we would like to see that we have some priorities for admission, but there are no such priorities and there will not be. And our guys will do the same. We have all the possibilities at our fingertips. The original walls of the house help.
A. Gubarev: Where can I get it? teaching staff?
A. Dyumin: This recruitment will be carried out by the Ministry of Defense under a special competitive program.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, the construction of the Suvorov School, as well as most of the items in the Regional Development Program require serious financial resources. It follows that the priority is probably still on economic development. What steps do you see in the economic strengthening of our still subsidized region?
A. Dyumin: Let's start with the budget. To date, we have ensured that the region has no commercial loans. It is important. They are completely repaid. Rates on commercial loans are tens of times higher than on federal loans. We had loans in the amount of 3.5 billion rubles. We paid them off. As a result, we saved 170 million rubles. Now this money will be spent on social programs. And in order for this to happen, we secured two loans from the federal budget. The first - 4.7 billion rubles, the second - 500 million rubles.
E. Kiryanova: In March, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree approving projects to create industrial parks. Tula's Uzlovaya park was also included among the 15 projects. The text of the Decree states that providing state support for these projects will make it possible to provide jobs across the country for more than 50 thousand people by 2020 and increase revenues to budgets of all levels by 67 billion rubles. But this is on a Russian scale. What will Uzlovaya give to the Tula region?
A. Dyumin: This is exactly the case when we work for the future. You shouldn't expect immediate results. The state distributes subsidies for the creation of industrial parks. Over three years, we will be reimbursed almost 700 million rubles. What is this money for? So that we supply electricity, build roads, railways, and create conditions for residents. For those who will come and build their own production in Uzlovaya. Our park can accommodate up to 40 residents. In addition, we have also achieved the creation of a special economic zone in the Uzlovsky district. A resolution on this has also been signed. And these are additional benefits - tax and customs. That is, we will create conditions under which it is profitable to come to us and invest money in creating production. What will we get in return? Enterprises that will be created in Uzlovaya will pay taxes to our budget. We assume that the amount could reach up to 8 billion; Tula residents will come to work at the enterprises. The forecast is the creation of up to 3,000 jobs. ?And, of course, this is an investment in the regional economy of up to 17 billion.
I emphasize once again - this is a perspective. In order to achieve results, you need to work hard and effectively. But we have already taken the first step. All resolutions have been signed.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, yes, indeed, Tula residents very often talk about Uzlovaya, in particular, about the automobile plant being built there. Is it really only going to stop there? Should we expect major investment projects with a big name?
A. Dyumin: We have begun extensive and serious work on preparing major investment agreements with a number of companies. Among them are state corporations Rosneft and Rostec. And private companies too. It is important to understand that attracting a strategic investor is a rather long process. There is no point in talking about this in advance, but I think that I will announce the first results after the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. It will take place in mid-June and the delegation of the Tula region will take part in it.
E. Kiryanova: In what direction will cooperation with state corporations take place? For example, you mentioned Rostec...
A. Dyumin: We have agreed on a strategic partnership with Rostec. Rostec, together with the Agency for Strategic Initiatives and the WorldSkills Union, has prepared a draft of a new educational space in the center of Tula on the basis of the Oktava plant. Already this summer on the site High school The WorldSkills corporate championship will be held, and I hope it will become an annual event. What is the advantage for Tula residents? Our college students will be able not only to compete, but also to exchange experience with Rostec teams that will come from various regions. This is, in principle, good practice - new approaches, advanced training, exchange of experience.
A. Gubarev: Now I propose to talk about the appearance of the regional capital, about what our Tula looks like. Of course, there is something to be proud of - a beautiful Kremlin, a well-maintained park, but there are a lot of such poorly maintained moments. You have already mentioned the Oktava plant - this is a fairly vast territory, and as far as I know, it is not fully used, and it looks clearly unpresentable. Is there already a solution?
A. Dyumin: Of course there is! The historical center of Tula is very beautiful. It needs to be developed, restored, given a new meaning... Therefore, another project that can be implemented in this building is the Quantorium children's park. Let me remind you that this project is one of the first that we agreed on as part of a strategic partnership with the Agency for Strategic Initiatives. In the technopark they will be able to get additional education schoolchildren who showed excellent results in the fields of chemistry, physics, and mathematics. Not only from Tula, but from all over the region. Funds for the creation of Quantorium will be allocated, including by the Russian Ministry of Education, and will be used to purchase equipment - the most modern machines, 3D printers, which will be used in the education process. In addition to educational space, I would like to fill the building with other interesting projects, but this is still in the future.
A. Gubarev: Will it be beautiful in appearance?
A. Dyumin: I think so.
E. Kiryanova: One of the first places you visited was the Tula Children's Regional Clinical Hospital. Then you said that you would support the construction of two new buildings. Any news on this project?
A. Dyumin: I couldn’t say it any other way. We are now working to include the construction of facilities in Russia’s federal targeted investment program for 2017. Some approvals have already been received. We will talk about the final decision closer to the fall, but we are doing everything for this.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, from health to demography. One of the main features of our region is that a third of the region’s population are people of retirement and pre-retirement age. What attention will you pay to older people?
A. Dyumin: I am grateful to Tula regional Duma, which supported my initiative and adopted several socially significant bills. They are associated with caring for the older generation. From June 1 this year, single unemployed people who have reached the age of 70 will receive compensation for expenses for major renovation in the amount of 50 percent, those who are 80 years old - in the amount of 100 percent. From May 1, residents of the region over 75 years of age can buy train tickets at half price - this 50 percent discount on travel on regional trains is enshrined in law. We have resolved the issue of providing housing for veterans of the Great Patriotic War Patriotic War. Everyone who needed to improve their living conditions received subsidies and corresponding letters of guarantee. We were allocated money from the federal budget to provide housing for 63 veterans, and we have 80 of them. Therefore, we adopted an appropriate law that will improve the living conditions of all veterans this year.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, I will again return to the topic of your trips to the regions. In Novomoskovsk you promised to build a football field.
A. Dyumin: Not just a football field, but with artificial turf, heated and a number of sports infrastructure around this field. I think you will see him soon. This football field will be opened on City Day.
E. Kiryanova: So now anyone can come up to you and say: “Alexey Gennadievich, can we have a football field, we don’t have one”?
A. Dyumin: The sports development program is working. Today, based on priority lists, we have the opportunity to find funds not only from the federal and regional budgets, but also by attracting sponsorship money for the construction of stadiums and sports and recreation centers. Recently, as you know, a modern sports and recreation complex was opened under the Gazprom for Children program. Gazprom plans to open an ice palace in Tula. We are planning to open mini-stadiums and various flat structures. This program is working, this program is running. Naturally, we pay close attention to those corners where the sports infrastructure is not developed. We will use additional resources there.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, but they ask not only for stadiums... When you visit districts, quite a lot of people come up to you and ask you to solve some minor problems, as well as more extensive ones. How can you solve them? Where to get the funds, since the budget is not rubber?
A. Dyumin: On my initiative, the Development Fund of the Tula Region “Perspective” was created. The fund has almost started its work. Its founders are three public organizations. This is extra-budgetary money - from people who are not indifferent to the fate of Tula and the region. These are patrons and sponsors whom we actively attract and look for. After all, the importance of the development of the Tula region is important for us, and not only for us, but for the entire country as a whole, because those strategic enterprises, those clusters of metallurgy and chemical industries. This is a very important strategic indicator for the country.
E. Kiryanova: Can you already voice any specific activities of the foundation?
A. Dyumin: In principle, yes. Based on the results of our working trips to the districts and meetings, problems arise that, with the help of this fund, we can solve in a targeted, targeted and effective manner. Of course, you can go along the budget line, but this will require a certain order of procedures, which will artificially and according to standards prolong the solution of problems. I can list, I have specifically written out examples here, such as roof repair in Teplo-Ogarevskaya high school, which is in a deplorable state. Repairing the roof at the Nadezhdinskaya school in the Dubensky district, purchasing a bus for students of the Voskresenskaya school in the Dubensky district, restoring the House of Culture in the village of Mishenskoye in the Belevsky district, and other things that are not included in the list, but the fund is working on them. I think that the first results will appear within this month.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, your hundred days were marked by quite resonant events. Let us recall the situation in the village of Plekhanovo. What is the current situation with illegal gypsy houses?
A. Dyumin: The situation that is happening in Plekhanovo is obvious. Everything will go within the law. On the 20th, the deadline for voluntary demolition of buildings expired. Now the city leadership has made a “road map” to resolve this issue. The mayor of the city controls this issue, and I also keep it under control. The most important thing is that everything will go within the law. If there is a court order to demolish illegal buildings, this will be done. Most importantly, I communicated with the residents. They are offended not by illegal gas taps, but by the fact that for some the law is written, for others it is not, some are responsible for the law, but others are not, some pay for gas and electricity , and someone doesn’t pay.
A. Gubarev: The situation in Plekhanovo is an emergency, but there are enough problems in the current regime. What are the most important ones, in your opinion?
A. Dyumin: I’m not the only one who thinks so. They are there. You know that the main problems in Russia are always fools and roads. Here is the President’s address on “Direct Line” to the population on the first issue of roads. Naturally, the problems of our region are linked to the problems of the regions and Russia as a whole. These are education, medicine, accessibility of medicine, these are housing and communal services problems and, of course, these are our roads. There are problems in the region with wage arrears at some enterprises due to economic deterioration. There are questions for management companies that do not perform their assigned functions in good faith. There are issues such as the return of agricultural land. At one time they bought them for three kopecks, but now they sit in Moscow or in other cities - neither for themselves nor for other people. We also have this problem: about 30 percent of such lands are not in circulation and could bring some profit for the region, but they are now in bushes and trees. There are enough problems. We do not discover anything new for ourselves in them. These problems are imposed on the entire country. It’s just that in our region we must solve them in a planned manner and bring them to the level of, let’s say, “not a problem.”
E. Kiryanova: To learn the characteristics of a region you need time and help. You appointed Vladimir Gruzdev as your advisor. Was this your initiative? And how can he help you?
A. Dyumin: Appointed him - it’s loud. I invited him to become my advisor. To which he agreed, and I am grateful to him for that. Gruzdev and I have quite a business, partnership, friendly relations. We're buddies. I don’t hide it, and he doesn’t hide it either. He served as governor for 4.5 years. He delved into certain problems, all the problems of the Tula region. He knows the specifics, the nuances. He knows the things he couldn't do. It has many positive aspects and you know this very well, this is noted by residents, and ratings, and indicators of the region in the Central federal district and for Russia as a whole. There is a lot to learn. There are things that have slipped. I wouldn't want to step on the rake a second time. There are certain things on which I ask him for advice, and together we decide on which path we should take further on those problematic issues which he couldn't do. As for the adviser, he is literate and competent to take part in the development of the Program for the socio-economic development of the region until 2021. There is a block of questions that he covers. He is a member of the working expert groups where he works. I think this is a normal partnership. There is such a thing as transfer of affairs. There was a transfer of affairs, and a kind of union of the acting governor and his adviser was formed. I think this is normal and effective.
E. Kiryanova: How do you communicate with him? By phone or meeting in person?
A. Dyumin: Mostly by telephone, but there are also personal meetings.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, my colleagues and I noted that during your working trips to enterprises and cities in the region, you communicate quite openly, in a simple way, with enterprise employees, workers, and residents. Without such barriers and obstacles. And to prove my words, I suggest watching our next story about your meetings with people.
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A. Dyumin: Questions about your savings are not of interest to the guys who travel this road every day. I wonder when the road will be.
O. Fedosov (head of administration of M. O. Shchekinsky district): Okay, we’ll try to do it this year.
A. Dyumin: Over the summer?
O. Fedosov: By September.
A. Dyumin: We’ll come and check.
Announcer: In the Shchekinsky district, residents complain to Alexey Dyumin about the impassable roads. The Acting Governor immediately sets the task for local authorities promptly carry out renovation work. Dates have been set, instructions have been given to specific individuals, and now they are personally responsible for their implementation. Alexey Dyumin gets acquainted with the work of enterprises in the region not in offices, but in workshops. Tulachermet is the largest iron production plant in Russia. The demand for the products of this metallurgical enterprise is constantly growing. Last year, production volumes increased by almost 100%. Pupils of the Novomoskovsk sports school have been dreaming of a modern training hall for a long time... and now a new physical education and health complex called “Dream” is opening its doors. The acting Governor of the region comes to the first training session. Athletes share their impressions with him and ask questions like a hockey player to a hockey player about their favorite sport.
A. Dyumin: I want to tell you a secret, just don’t tell it to anyone: as a child I wanted to become a professional hockey player, but I didn’t succeed. I just followed in military footsteps. But I want to tell you that hockey is a very correct sport. This is a very courageous and spectacular sport, so I approve of your choice.
Announcer: Glasses virtual reality, perhaps the only opportunity to take a little break from the decision important tasks and play sports in the mountains, in the park or on the ocean. Tula entrepreneurs develop and implement new technologies. Getting to know Tula brands from the inside: in the workshops of the confectionery factory, where they produce candies, marshmallows, marmalade, Tula gingerbreads, Alexey Dyumin tries to make them himself. Master class from confectioners, a few minutes of work and you're done. The first experience turned out to be successful. First, I drove an all-terrain vehicle myself, then on foot. Tent camp 4 kilometers from the village of Bashkino, Belevsky district. Searchers carried out reconnaissance with a metal detector. Alexey Dyumin goes to the excavation site with the participants of the Memory Watch. Along with the remains of the soldier, they pick up cartridges for a Mosin rifle, a belt plaque and a helmet. Before the main holiday, Victory Day, such memorable finds are especially valuable.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, you have repeatedly said that you have experience working with search engines. How did it all start?
A. Dyumin: You know, this is actually not an experience. In distant childhood, we, as boys, rode in the yard secretly from our parents on electric trains, took probes, took small shovels. We tried to find relics that are associated with those times of that distant war. It was more of an adventure. But we really tried, we dug something. There were no metal detectors then. There was something more adventurous here. Who would have thought that such adventures could overlap with such serious events, of which I recently became a participant.
E. Kiryanova: We know that your profession is to defend the Motherland, until recently this was your job, but we know very little about you. The main activity is clear - the security of the country. Still, the Star of the Hero of Russia... For what?
A. Dyumin: The profession of defending the homeland is not a thing of the past. It remains to this day. My homeland is now the Tula region. I will continue to defend my Motherland, but now in the region, in the Tula region. This profession has remained - defending one’s homeland. I received the Star of the Hero of Russia for completing special tasks and instructions for the Motherland, for my interests in protecting the Motherland.
A. Gubarev: On May 5, you, together with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, attended a funeral meeting and saw off the body of senior special forces lieutenant Alexander Prokhorenko. The story of this guy who died heroically in Syria is, in my opinion, worthy of being described in a textbook. And yet, what was the reason for your visit to the Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow?
A. Dyumin: You know that at a certain stage of my life I was in the Ministry of Defense Russian Federation. I commanded such an elite, quite serious very unit special purpose- These are the Special Operations Forces. I'm proud of that time period. These are quite highly qualified specialists, cool guys who are ready at any time to give themselves up for defense in the interests of their country, both within their homeland and abroad. They perform very serious tasks. And I know that now they are fulfilling their assigned tasks to protect the interests of the Motherland. This is a very serious unit, where I left a piece of myself, a piece of my heart. I will say that I didn’t know this guy personally, but for a certain time he was my subordinate. I commanded this unit where he served. This is truly a real Hero, he died heroically. He not only took the fire on himself, he also saved the lives of his comrades. He truly deserves the Hero of Russia award posthumously. Eternal memory to him.
E. Kiryanova: You have already said that you were the commander of the Special Operations Forces of Russia. How long? And do you keep in touch with your comrades?
A. Dyumin: Yes, of course, all the time. Almost every day we call each other, I ask how they are doing, I wonder how things are going in the unit that I commanded. I still have a lot of friends there, I can say friends. This is a kind of military brotherhood, when once you get there, you never return from there, you remain in this team, you stay forever.
E. Kiryanova: How long were you a commander?
A. Dyumin: Two years.
A. Gubarev: First commander...
A. Dyumin: No, I am not the first commander. This unit was created before me; there were other commanders. But it began to acquire its powerful tempering, this is how it happened, this is how the maps and the foreign policy and international situation developed. It was during my arrival that the stage of serious development and acquisition of combat experience began.
A. Gubarev: You took part in risky operations. I am sure that this strengthens special qualities in a person. But what qualities do you value in a person?
A. Dyumin: I won’t tell you anything new. This is decency, this is reliability. If you speak, you don’t throw words to the wind. These are such masculine concepts of male friendship, when you trust, you can turn your back to a person and you know that he will not betray you. I won't tell you anything new. These are ordinary human stories, according to the principle of which a man should exist as a protector of the family, a defender of the Fatherland, a reliable shoulder and support.
E. Kiryanova: You are a candidate of sciences, you wrote a dissertation. For what?
A. Dyumin: Returning to my life during my work at the Ministry of Defense, I had quite a lot of experience in preparing foreign visits of the head of state at the level of international formats. These are various summits: BRICS, SCO, economic congresses, various conferences such as the G8, G20 - large economic platforms where all heads of state gathered. I was part of advanced working groups with colleagues in economics, international relations, where we went through certain preparatory stages, meetings, conferences. I have collected a large number of material that I thought: why not use it in scientific activity. I entered the Civil Service Academy, and upon successful completion I was asked to write a scientific paper with my respected professor.
A. Gubarev: With your permission, let's continue a personal topic. You family man? What does the spouse do and where does the son study?
A. Dyumin: Yes, I am a family man. I have a good family. I have a wife. Her name is Olga. There is a son, Nikita, who goes to 5th grade. IN family relationships Everything is fine with me, we are happy, we have been living together for 14 years. I'm fine. My wife works in one of the commercial banks.
A. Gubarev: Are you planning to bring your family to Tula?
A. Dyumin: I am in Tula 99 percent of the time. I'm completely immersed in work. My son goes to math school. He prepared for admission to this school for about a whole year: various Olympiads and additional classes. I would not want to ruin the fate of a child because of my fate. We see our family quite often. They come here whenever possible. I see my wife more often. Tula and Moscow are a short distance, so everything is fine.
E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, we know that you play hockey. Do you do any other sports at all? And how do you stay fit with such a schedule?
A. Dyumin: Now I can no longer say that I play hockey because of the tight schedule. If this happens once a week, I'm happy. Besides hockey, I think I’m pretty good at alpine skiing. This also takes time and a certain season. I enjoyed going to the gym. The schedule at the moment is really very tight. I think I’ll work hard and find time to devote time to sports more often.
A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, we see you at every game of the Tula Arsenal. Has football also become a sporting love?
A. Dyumin: I treat football, like hockey, and other sports the same way. This is quite a spectacular and popular sport. As for Arsenal, it’s a brand, it’s the highlight of the city of Tula and the Tula region. The team is in a difficult financial situation. We will support her. Now we all hope and pray for her to reach the highest level - this is the Premier League. We won't abandon the team.
A. Gubarev: You said that you spend 99 percent of your time in Tula. Does this mean that Tula has become your second home, and are you planning to settle here?
A. Dyumin: Tula has become much more than my home, it has become my everything. As for registration, I think how you devote yourself to work, how you position yourself, what your results are and what people see these results - this is more important than registration. To answer your question, yes, I plan to.
A. Gubarev: We talked with the acting Governor of the Tula region Alexei Dyumin. Alexey Gennadievich, thank you for the interesting, rich dialogue, but there are still many questions and topics for conversation. When will we meet on TV again?
A. Dyumin: Thank you for interesting questions. Let's think together. Maybe in a month, when we return from the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. I want to wish good luck to all residents of the Tula region. Will be working!
E. Kiryanova: See you again!
A. Dyumin: See you again!
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“And there was never a time when he set me tasks and I said no”
Alexey Dyumin in an interview spoke about working in Putin’s security and his appointment
Acting Governor of the Tula Region, main newsmaker last week Alexey Dyumin gave great interview newspaper Kommersant, in which he spoke about his biography and acquaintance with President Vladimir Putin.
Dyumin said that he was born in Kursk. His father is a military medic, his mother worked as a teacher. As a child, Dyumin also lived in Voronezh, where his father was transferred. There he started playing hockey. Having become a military man, Dyumin served for some time in the Moscow Military District, then “a personnel officer I knew” suggested moving to the main security department, the presidential communications department. “I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and there were a couple of times the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin,” says Dyumin.
Then Dyumin moved to the personal security department. “I approached one department head and asked. I say: “Take me, I want to come to you!” And he ended up in the personal security department,” he says.
Dyumin, according to him, joined Putin’s personal security in 1999. He went to work on August 9 - the day Putin took up his duties as chairman of the government. “I don’t want to talk now, for example, about one boss who told me that the next chairman of the government has come, that this is a passing option, that no one knows him, no one has heard... But your task is to tell us not to It’s a shame for everyone: we need to work it out. He came for two or three months, then there will be another chairman of the government, but he needs to work off...” says Dyumin.
In security, Dyumin was a member of the team led by Viktor Zolotov, who is now in command internal troops Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. There were many aspects of the work related to threats to Putin. “For example, there was a visit to the village of Znamensky, after liberation from Chechen militants. And the meeting with the elders, it was also a difficult meeting, the village was liberated, but certain things remained that were associated with threats... And after the meeting with the elders, we went to the helicopter, and this is the main helicopter on which we arrived. I tried to tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that this helicopter was ours, he did not listen to me, and went across the field to a distant helicopter, not his own, and it turned out that he ended up in the escort helicopter. This helicopter took off safely, we got into the main one, the engine began to pick up speed, the helicopter took off two meters from the ground, some kind of flame broke out under the skin, under the engine, smoke began to appear, and the helicopter landed very hard... The pilot got out all pale, sweaty, he said: “Guys, we were born in a shirt.” And then I wondered what it was,” said Dyumin.
Next, Dyumin tells what his job was when Putin became chairman of the government after his first presidential term. “Every morning begins with a report to the president on operational reports. Not only do special services report to him, but you must also have information on regions and emergency situations. Sometimes it was necessary to transfer an order to the minister and assign a task to the head of the region. […] There was once such a moment, a very interesting one, which characterizes him. It was the end of the term of the Prime Minister, a trip, and there was a public appearance, and it seemed to me that one of the, let’s say, citizens behaved incorrectly towards Vladimir Vladimirovich, took him by the sleeve, began to pull him back, and I hit him on the hand. Well, I just indicated... It was during the day. In the evening, Vladimir Vladimirovich called me to his place, at about ten o’clock, and said: “If I see this again, you will never work with me again.” He says: “I saw this situation, you didn’t have to do this. This is a simple person. We’ll leave, you’re all dressed up, together with the president... and he will have a bad feeling for the rest of his life not towards you, but towards to me..."".
In an interview, Dyumin denied information that appeared in the media that he took part in the operation to evacuate ex-President Viktor Yanukovych from Ukraine. “I don’t even understand where all this comes from. Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the start of the well-known events in Ukraine, I never saw this gentleman at all.” - he said.
He also spoke about his appointment to the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, which preceded his appointment to the Tula region. “The Minister of Defense called me and said that it was his decision and that he had agreed on his decision with the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. And that he offers me to take the post of Deputy Minister of Defense. I tried not to refuse, I tried to discuss. How was this decision made, etc. To which I was told in such a harsh form that the decision had been made and the verdict could not be appealed. But we must give credit to Sergei Kuzhugetovich. He saw my condition, saw my eyes and asked that they bring me 50 grams of cognac from the reception... Well, not 50, but even 100. This despite the fact that there is prohibition in the ministry.”
As for the appointment to the Tula region, Dyumin said that he could not refuse. “When I was offered this position, I was a military man, and this task was assigned to me by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. And it never happened that when he set tasks for me, I said “no”. Maybe I had some desire inside me to say something, but I said “yes.” After all, life has changed dramatically more than once. I will work to make it work,” he said.
He noted that he is not planning personnel changes in the Tula government: “There will be no revolutionary movements, no Moscow landings, that’s clear. And I think that the team that is working there now is very good.”
As previously reported, on February 2, Russian President Vladimir Putin accepted the resignation of Vladimir Gruzdev from the post of governor of the Tula region. As reported in the decree, Gruzdev left his post at will. During the meeting with Gruzdev, Putin promised the ex-governor to find him a job “closer to Moscow.”
By the same decree, Alexey Dyumin was appointed acting governor of the Tula region until the elections.
